Also winchester chambered that 38 72 cartridge in the model 1885 single shot rifle. We have the top brands for your rifle at the best prices, ready to ship right to your door nationwide. Well 3855, it seems that the winchester factory, loaded the 3872 cartridge up until 1936. Although the book focuses on the black powder cartridge rifle bpcr models, the disassembly and assembly instructions apply to all the modern versions of the m1885. It was a ballard 3850 everlasting with a longer case. I received enough input to realize we all enjoy talking about our findings, so lets try this one. Buy winchester m94 cartridge guide left factory replacement gun parts, accessories and gunsmithing service on most manufacturers including browning, winchester, fn america, beretta, benelli franchi, stoeger, remington, bushmaster, marlin, sig sauer, hk and many more. The big bore buffalo cartridges were loaded with black powder, as smokeless powder had not yet been invented. Shooters bible guide to cartridges will help those with revolvers, rifles, and other guns.
Buy winchester m94 cartridge guide left factory replacement gun parts, accessories and gunsmithing service on most manufacturers including browning, winchester, fn america, beretta, benelli franchi. Also winchester chambered that 3872 cartridge in the model 1885 single shot rifle. It has the reputation as a killer of big game from the old days as a black powder cartridge and was popular in schuetzen target shooting for years. The velocity and energy figures in this table are taken from various sources including the federal, remington, weatherby and winchester ammunition guides and the 9th edition of the book cartridges of the world by frank c.
While it isnt foolproof, often the easiest way to identify a cartridge. Yes, the 38 55 is a very capable cartridge for hunting. While it isnt foolproof, often the easiest way to identify a cartridge is to look at the headstamp, if there is one, because in many instances that will tell you exactly what it is. You can check it out by, clicking on 1885 in 4560 thread and look at berts chart. Winchester continued to use the round in various rifles until about 1940, and also used it in a few commemorative editions of rifles since then. Cartridge identification is important to anyone who works with ammunition cartridges, whether its reloading or collecting. However, the table below gives a reasonably accurate comparison of the basic ballistics of most popular rifle cartridges.
Some history and reloading recipes on five popular. It is a straight walled case and was introduced by marlin and winchester in their respective lever action rifles. In a new video, larry potterfield of midway usa talks about the 3855 winchester centerfire, which started life as a ballard target cartridge in 1884. View cart checkout wish list login you have 0 item s in your. Here are two facts about the 3855 that you can consider to be hearsay until you run across evidence that they are true. I understand the 3220 choice, but for me i need to have the highest velocity lead will allow, which weads the small ctg out. It is not particularly well suited to hunting larger game, but. Lets take a closer look at five of the best leveraction rifle cartridges. Dave is correct when he says that the 3850 ballard is an everlasting cartridge. Thoroughly researched, this 312 page book contains over 1,400 full color. The 3855 is quite effective at our 200m, all offhand, fullsize animal silhoutte match. Have you been curious about which cartridges are best for which shooting needs. The mechanics on this rifle are nice and there appears to still be a significant amount of original finish on the cartridge carrier.
The spg primer gives loads for each cartridge with something like 12 grains difference in powder capacity between the two, with the. It was a ballard 38 50 everlasting with a longer case. If youre looking for a nice model 1894 with a hard to find antique serial number and in the most desirable caliber, 38 55, dont let this. It is most commonly used in revolvers, although some semiautomatic pistols and carbines also use this round.
If you get a 3855, it is imperitive to slug the bore, as they tend to vary a lot from. Its nomenclature is derived from its approximately. Thank you very much for the great replies on the bore condition thread. Apr 12, 2017 the cartridge chambered in this revolver was known as the.
Top 5 leveraction rifle cartridges american hunter. Nov 17, 2008 not sure how much help this will be, but the 38 55 is a fine cartridge that was resurrected by the cowboy action shooters. History and development of the 38 special russ chastain 08. Dont recall anyone ever ringing a ram with their 3855 at 200m. As i understand it, the length of the 38 55 case got shortened on the day that winchester decided to produce ammunition for both 38 55 and 3030 from a single size of manufactured case blank.
Recognizing a good thing, winchester, savage, remington and colt offered the cartridge in hunting rifles. Now if that is original bp ammo, i dont know if it would be worth a bit more or not. Bruce, i was at a gun show in ontario here and there was a fellow who specialized in selling old ammo. Its also quite similar in appearance to an earlier cartridge called the. The cartridge began to be noticed by hunters in 1884, when marlin offered it in the model 1881 leveraction rifle. Collector ammo page 1 petes vintage guns and ammo llc. Recognizing a good thing, winchester, savage, remington and colt offered the cartridge in. Have you ever wondered which cartridge was appropriate for your gun or a friends gun.
The cartridge came out in 1884 for the ballard perfection no. I want a caliber big enough for a 200 yard deer kill, and to me that means 32 special 3240, or 38 55. Versions of the cartridge were the standard revolver cartridges of the british military from 1922 until the 1960s. Well 38 55, it seems that the winchester factory, loaded the 38 72 cartridge up until 1936. As i understand it, the length of the 3855 case got shortened on the day that. It was used by marlin firearms from 1875 on for various singleshot target rifles and their 1893 lever action rifle. History of the nra nra museums i have this old gun nra gun gurus. The groove diameter of the 3855 has varied considerable with each rifle maker of the day interpreting the specifications slightly different. It has the reputation as a killer of big game from the old days as a black powder cartridge and was popular in. The spg primer gives loads for each cartridge with something like 12 grains difference in powder capacity.
Yet cartridges of the world states there is only 1 grain of difference in powder capacity between the two cases. Apr 03, 20 cartridge identification is important to anyone who works with ammunition cartridges, whether its reloading or collecting. As the story goes winchester decided to produce ammunition for both calibers from the same brass case blank. Book spg spg black powder cartridge reloading primer, revised 9th edition, 20 plus new. It was later offered by winchester in its model 1894. More details on book contents and ordering instructions can be found at the. Not sure how much help this will be, but the 3855 is a fine cartridge that was resurrected by the cowboy action shooters. According to bert, there were 3 winchester 1885 single shot rifles manufactured in 38 72. Both marlin and lyman offer old time designs for the. In his book, home guide to cartridge conversions george nonte writes that you should trim 3855 win cases to 2. Shot, and the 3240 and 3855 cartridges, were all introduced within a year or two of each other.
The cast bhn runs around and would like to keep smokeless loads around 1400 fps i think that 3031 is probably too slow a powder for lighter plainbased loads in the. Questions regarding the history of the 3872 cartridge. This cartridge was introduced for rifles, but in its reintroduction for cowboy action shooting it has seen some popularity as a revolver cartridge. The cast bhn runs around and would like to keep smokeless loads. Winchester continued to use the round in various rifles until about 1940, and also. I was reading my spg primer and ran into something that did not make sense to me. Contents are all tinjacketed soft points correctly headstamped. This surplus ww1 ammo with mixed headstamps that was purchased privately and converted to soft point by cutting off the bullet tip. Here are two facts about the 38 55 that you can consider to be hearsay until you run across evidence that they are true.
Midwayusa carries a full line of 3855 wcf from all the major brands. He also states that you can use 3030 cases by first expanding the neck to take. So this is not only the very first whv 3855 box but is also in a. It was commercially introduced in 1884 by winchester. The groove diameter of the 38 55 has varied considerable with each rifle maker of the day interpreting the specifications slightly different. The cartridge was introduced by winchester in 1874 and is derived from their. The bore is excellent, bright and shiny, with strong lands and grooves. Those by umc include a full metal jacketed bullet, two lead lead bullets, the second being a british style coppertubed express bullet, and a wood bullet shot load.
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